Working in Schools?

[Guest77]

Well we are all truly ****ed if the NICEIC are considered to be above the British standards institute!

Yes I agree, but that is what the county councils want, they have been running an approved contractor scheme for 40 years plus now and therefore are the accepted body of the Local authorities, the rest need to catch up, but are a way back yet.

 

[Guest77]

Well we are all truly ****ed if the NICEIC are considered to be above the British standards institute!

But the BS are standards not a regulary body sending out inspectors annually checking work from approved contractors in schools and libraries etc, big difference, I am not NICEIC friendly, just pointing out the obvious, for Stroma to gain acceptance by most councils as a competition to the NICEIC they need to up thier game and get away from the Part P schemes they seem to get attention in, there are few houses in county council control, it is schools and police/fire stations and libraiers etc etc, the city councils deal with housing, and this thread is about county council requirements.

 

[davesparks]

But the BS are standards not a regulary body sending out inspectors annually checking work from approved contractors in schools and libraries etc, big difference, I am not NICEIC friendly, just pointing out the obvious, for Stroma to gain acceptance by most councils as a competition to the NICEIC they need to up thier game and get away from the Part P schemes they seem to get attention in, there are few houses in county council control, it is schools and police/fire stations and libraiers etc etc, the city councils deal with housing, and this thread is about county council requirements.

The BSI scheme does do exactly that, the same as all of the other schemes

 

[Guest77]

The BSI scheme does do exactly that, the same as all of the other schemes

Never heard of them inspecting members and the NICEIC do have 11000, it is no good trying to argue Stromas case, they will need to adapt to a scheme inspecting Commercial and Industrial work by letting the Local authorities know and by adhereing to the local authorities requirements, they are not there yet, they are new and trying to get there, they will, but at the moment the NICEIC have the market with the Approved contractor scheme, I have been doing this 33 years and have been to dozens of meetings, I am not making this up, I have seen Napit attempt to get in the door and fall due to not meeting requirments, they are also too pro Part P, to get into the schools most, not all but Most Local authorities want the established NICEIC, it is a fact and for it to change the others need to up their game lol.

 

[Guest77]

The thing is with the NICEIC the inspectors are different from the Domestic installer inspectors, the NICEIC treat the 2 bodies as different bodies, the same organisation but they keep them apart, If stroma did a similar thing and could adhere to the L A requirements they may get in the door, but they are associated with Part P only, bad marketing, I have just looked at their site and nothing stands out as anything other than Domestic and Green at first look to me.

 

[Welchyboy1]

The thing is with the NICEIC the inspectors are different from the Domestic installer inspectors, the NICEIC treat the 2 bodies as different bodies, the same organisation but they keep them apart, If stroma did a similar thing and could adhere to the L A requirements they may get in the door, but they are associated with Part P only, bad marketing, I have just looked at their site and nothing stands out as anything other than Domestic and Green at first look to me.

Outside of this forum, i dont think theres a single spark i know whos even heard of stoma for part p scheme, let alone people not in the industry

they will have a steep hill to climb to take on the nic approved contractor scheme

 

[Guest77]

Very True mate, very true.

 

[davesparks]

Never heard of them inspecting members and the NICEIC do have 11000, it is no good trying to argue Stromas case, they will need to adapt to a scheme inspecting Commercial and Industrial work by letting the Local authorities know and by adhereing to the local authorities requirements, they are not there yet, they are new and trying to get there, they will, but at the moment the NICEIC have the market with the Approved contractor scheme, I have been doing this 33 years and have been to dozens of meetings, I am not making this up, I have seen Napit attempt to get in the door and fall due to not meeting requirments, they are also too pro Part P, to get into the schools most, not all but Most Local authorities want the established NICEIC, it is a fact and for it to change the others need to up their game lol.

I'm not interested in arguing stromas case, I'm far more interesting in the case against the NICEIC.
I have two local schools on my customer list, and the state of the work carried out there in recent years by the county council approved contractors is diabolical to say the least, they can stick their NICEIC registration as all it seems to guarantee these days is that a **** job will be done.

 

[Guest77]

So your saying all Electrical contractors on the NICEIC Approved contractor scheme do a **** job then? one word Dave=Bollox

 

[davesparks]

So your saying all Electrical contractors on the NICEIC Approved contractor scheme do a **** job then? one word Dave=Bollox

It certainly appears that way based on the **** I've had to deal with in the last couple of years. What about the people on here who loudly proclaim their membership of the NICEIC yet clearly haven't got a clue?
Of course it's a generalisation and there must be some top notch installers on the list. But none of is ever gets called out to deal with their ****ups.