Total Trade Services - Wales

[londonlec]

Is that £95 with materials supplied? Plus full bonding?

 

[vaughant]

Oh dear,sounds a proper joke outfit,the job centre bit kind of gave it away,I've never even walked in one when I closed my business,seemed a pointless exercise.Sorry to hear that people lost money,sadly this goes on in all walks of life,particularly right now as jobs get scarce.In my old line of work I had to physically go and collect money from one company,it does help I'm a big lad(mainly flubber!!!!) but after a few choice words they did eventually pay.I've luckily never had to use these type of agents as my works a bit more specialized but it's very upsetting to see people get ripped off.On the note of scams be aware of people trying to put claims in against your company after you've closed it.An employers liability insurance company tried doing it to me (no names) and luckily I caught the lad red handed.What they do is if you close up,and this can be anyone,they try and lodge a claim with companies house saying you owe them x amount of money then if you have gone bust,the government gives them 10% of it back as a minimum.I know someone who's done this scam for years,even setting his own firms up and pocketing the cash.This lad tried it with me but unbeknown to him I simply closed my firm owing no debt so therefore they government were not involved.A debt recovery firm contacted me,typical cockney hardman on the phone to which I was able to produce plenty of info for him and he apologized and went on his way.I then got in touch with the insurance company lad who stupidly gave me his personal mobile number previously posing as a person looking to claim off the liability insurance and I was told he was the man to talk to.he proceeded to tell me all about how I'd left the business go bankrupt owing then thousands in premium(my premium was £600) and that if he ever came into personal contact with me him and his "surrey boys" would sort me out.Really?after a brief 5 seconds of me explaining that that wouldn't happen,that I knew where he worked,what car he drove(he'd previously told me),I had HIS mobile number and full name it was not going to be an issue if I drove up his way now with my mates in the car,to which I put one on the phone and unsurprisingly the "surrey boy" apologized profusely,I think he even had a little cry!!!Silly boy,doubt he tried that scam again.

 

[jim1976]

if i don't get my money i am willing to take it as far as i have to, they owe me over £1300 so not going to sit back and ignore it. going to start with calls to them then i will go to the wakefield office and face to face it where i will get paid one way or another

 

[AngelFX]

My team got finished for reasons only known to Trade. I work to regulations and gas safe standards and did not fail at my job like they tried to say, we also haven't had our exit interview a lot like Jim and we are owed cash.

My team can't do this alone we need all of you ex employees or employees who are disgruntled and know that their days are numbered to look back at the posts I have put on here and contact all of the numbers I supplied with regards to Trade Services, I have done so but as the only one nothing will get done, if we all contact these numbers one of them, hopefully watchdog, will pick us up and investigate it, as it stands unless you have worked for them for a year you have no leg to stand on!!!!

Its solicitor time for us today, if anyone else is interested in taking this down the legal route I would quite happily engage a solicitor on our side on our behalf as a group rather than individuals so we can all take them to court together. Strength in numbers.

What confuses me is that Trade Services are advertising at the Jobcentre again........we have rang our Jobcentre and complained YOU SHOULD TOO if they advertise at your Jobcentre. The only way we can bring this company down is together by doing something now, don't wait to see if you get paid, we are entitled by law to receive payment for works done, and to the fella who wants a back rate for being messed around waiting outside plumb centre JOIN THE CLUB we know how your feeling, my team was turned away from jobs that were cancelled by EAGA! Not our fault and we want paid for it.

DONT SIT ON THE FENCE ACT TODAY

 

[AngelFX]

HERE ARE THOSE NUMBERS AGAIN WE MUST DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS

OK ANYONE WANTING TO REPORT TOTAL TRADE FOR ANY REASON I HAVE DONE SOME DIGGING AROUND AND THESE ARE WHO YOU SHOULD BE TALKING TO

UNISON - JOINING FEE APPLIES BUT THEY ARE THE DOGS TESTICLES
PAY AND WORK HELPLINE - 08009172368
TRADING STANDARDS - 08454040506
DEPARTMENT FOR ENERGY AND CLIMATE CHANGE - 03000604000 this is the governing body who issues policy to Warmfront and if you think Total Trade are not acting within that policy then these people need to know, SO if you were an employee of the company who got laid off then re-employed with the company but under a different name then you MUST contact this official government department.
WATCHDOG - BBC - Watchdog and give them 'your story'

 

[oldAL]

Is that £95 with materials supplied? Plus full bonding?

yep,
£95 labour only, plus £20 for each MEB needed,
its all a bit pointless now, they arent paying ,
so they can offer any amount.!!!

 

[jim1976]

thanks for the number going to start phoning tomoz. wish they where closer i would go face to face with mr kevin nicol (the director) until he got his cheque book out. i have his mobile no if any one wants it, only thing i have never got him to answer it. i cant believe they have been getting away with it for so long. whats wrong with people stand up for yourself, TTS are breaking the law and have been for years its about time they get it up the ****ter from bubba jay. i want them to go under after they have payed all works that are owed

 

[Scott F]

I have not been affected but would urge ALL who have to go with Angel

The legal; route Thats the only way you will get back at them I understand

your anger JIMI but you won't be the first or last and your more than likely

end up with a record for criminal damage OR GBH which one day you

might regret.

 

[jim1976]

scott f i have not got one nor will i ever get a crim rec i'm a big lad so my presents is normally enough lol but i will try to do it the right, either way i will get payed. my worry is they go bankrupt and everyone loses out. any one got Dominic littlewoods number lol

 

[Scott F]

Cool I wasn't trying to lecture

Just realise with age that companies people get away with this sort of

thing because people of the lethargy factor and these companies know

this.

Secondly its the sort of thing I may have done and then only realised when

I woke up next day in the cell.

 

[AngelFX]

ANYONE WHO WANTS TO GANG UP ON THIS RING ME 07510680734 WE NEED TO SORT THIS!

I rang Trade yesterday and then today and asked for Allie Devenney both times, she was the one at the review meeting......guess what? She's not in either days and there are no senior managers available OR in the office to speak to!!!!

Jim I think we are both of the same stamp maybe you, me and myt team mate should go pay them a visit!!!! We don't need answers no more we need paid. Either that or we should go with the same solicitor, maybe one solicitor could get their teeth into this if there are a lot of disgruntled ex staff!!!!

 

[jim1976]

where about are you ? im in lincolnshire. just been to CAB they did me a letter so going to send that and then its solicitor then they will have no choice loser pays all court fees

 

[AngelFX]

minor prob with my phone ..... its gone walkabouts. will post again when I locate it

 

[AngelFX]

I am in Newcastle mate. Just had a call, apparently Allie Devenney is gonna call me today. Any chance you could email me a copy of that letter Jim the one ur gonna send them so I can c what you are doing ur side? My email [email protected] and ill let you know as soon as i find my mobile. Cheeers

 

[AngelFX]

Home | Number10.gov.uk Try sending an email here the more we get to Number 10 the more notice they will take of us!!

 

[ian1971]

hiya angel it was great talking to you about the total trade issues....defo think we gotta do summit about them as they not only strip your bank account they also think its there right to do it.....there a company with no morals in either there work ethics or in which way they treat there staff.....the only word i can describe them as is "SCUM"....

 

[AngelFX]

hiya angel it was great talking to you about the total trade issues....defo think we gotta do summit about them as they not only strip your bank account they also think its there right to do it.....there a company with no morals in either there work ethics or in which way they treat there staff.....the only word i can describe them as is "SCUM"....

Right on mate...just emailed watchdog again [email protected] have a go and see what happens!:toetap05:

 

[ian1971]

will do m8 and after reading some of these posts by both the sparks and the plumbers who have had the misfortune of working for these scumbags (which i would like to add wouldnt know which end of a spanner or screwdriver to hold)....i'm gonna be sending as many emails to as many of these bodies who can at least try and help us...



UP THE REVOLUTION!!!!!!!

 

[ian1971]

emailed watchdog and started to catalogue the 'Total Trade Way' of ripping off there employees hopefully this might get the ball rolling and try and get some of the other guy's on here to speak up too,spoke to some other lads this afternoon and they have already gone down the route of legal action put are put off by the cost of it (which i can understand as they aint been paid off them either)but i would rather go down fighting than just stand there and say nothing about this company's morals (or lack of them)!!!!!!!!!!!!...

 

[AngelFX]

HERE HERE!!!!

How about this.......because the legal route IS expensive how about we get our heads together and instruct 1 solicitor to work for us all as a group???? My number is there so get in touch and we'll sort something out, if we are communicating then thats the place to start, link together everyone and work from there!!!!

LETS TAKE THEM DOWN !!!!

 

[Electricalserv]

Wow this company took alot of you for mugs then?

 

[ian1971]

They certainly have m8 and they will continue to do it, this company are calculated and they know exactly what they are doing when it comes to shafting there employees.
They hide behind the mask of a company which says its all for the customers and there employees but really the only thing they care about is how full there bank balance is,they expect there employees to work for them at the highest of standards but they dont have any themselves!!!!.They also think they are untouchable and there favourite is to pass the buck to lower ranking mangement....i.e.if theres a probelm and nobody sorts it out they say the orginal person who was dealing with your 'query' has been moved to another department so you have to start the whole process again!!!!!......I believe the sparkys have faired better than the plumbers on the pay issue.

I would just advise anybody who is thinking of going for a job with this bunch of misfits to think again because you will never get what they say they are going to give you apart from a headache that you dont need

 

[bumsniff]

I was payed 2 months late for march, a month late for may and still no pay for april all payments have been short of what was promised also. cowboys

 

[ian1971]

Thats there usual stamp m8 but thats if you get paid at all!!!!!
spoke to a couple of teams and they were told that because they just left the company (and i use that term 'company' very very loosely) they have no chance of getting the money they are owed!!!
How can any firm treat there employees and ex employees in such a way??? but these bunch of muppets are just causing themselves hassle by not responding to questions that need answering and thinking that people can afford just not to be paid.. Are ya joining the cause then m8???

 

[jim1976]

i phoned them up Wednesday and was promised my exit letter by monday 27/6/ not got it yet and doubt i will so i have a letter to send them them they have 2 weeks after that im taking them to court and loser pays all fees. anyone that has let them get away with it deserve everything they get get some balls and a back bone and stand up to the mickey mouse company. its free go to citizens advice they will even type the letter that you need for it. if enough people go maybe they will look in to it on a bigger scale and shut the joke of a company down for good and they can all go on the dole.

 

[jim1976]

forgot to say you only have 3 month to get your money your owed so get on with it now. they will no this and thats why they ignore you and fob you off all the time. DONT LET THEM WIN THEY HAVE GOT AWAY WITH IT FOR TO LONG LETS BRING THEM DOWN NOW

 

[IQ Electrical]

i phoned them up Wednesday and was promised my exit letter by monday 27/6/ not got it yet and doubt i will so i have a letter to send them them they have 2 weeks after that im taking them to court and loser pays all fees. anyone that has let them get away with it deserve everything they get get some balls and a back bone and stand up to the mickey mouse company. its free go to citizens advice they will even type the letter that you need for it. if enough people go maybe they will look in to it on a bigger scale and shut the joke of a company down for good and they can all go on the dole.

I wish you every success Jim but from experience, it's one thing getting a judgement and a totally different thing actually getting any money.

The other problem is the time that goes by from starting your action to actually making something happen, it's quite pathetic.

As far as I can tell, the company are not Limited so you won't even have the option of a winding up order.

 

[jim1976]

i will get payed even if i have to go to wales and take it out the offices in the way of computers

 

[ian1971]

jim where did you find that info out about them only having 3months to pay you otherwise they dont have to??. surely if we go through the right channels and a complaint is logged to them they have to act on it?.We are going to need to find out this infomation quickly to see where we stand..

 

[AngelFX]

Alryt lads, Jim Ian and all the others. As you know I put my number on here last week for all to get in touch and do this on a mass scale, well I got a phone call on Friday night off Mark Bryant!

He told me that he was going to arrange a meeting for us all to go and see him in person, express our concerns and that HE would personally pay us the wages we were owed and that the compnay had a few problems they were trying to sort but weren't in the habit of ripping employees off, (he co-owns the company), he rang off his number, he text off his number to confirm my ringing him at 10.15am today, I did so and guess he had a change of heart as he number no longer exists.

He was plausable and listened to what I had to say, which part of me wanted to believe it but my wife saw straight through it!!

My number is still on here and now I have an investigation up and going as of this morning and need as many numbers for let down employees as poss, even if you HAVE been paid but are disgruntled you MUST get in touch!!

ONE MORE THING it appears he knows about this forum and sees everthing on it too as thats how he got my number!!

 

[ian1971]

areet angel that was jolly good of Mr Bryant to give you a call and be so concerned of our plight i just hope that he and Mr Stevenson can sleep at night knowing that hes had so many x emplyees paying for his lavish lifestyle and i hope his yacht in Colwyn Bay sinks as fast as there company (what with all there famous non existant promises)......That would of been nice to meet up with him for a coffee and chat about the good old days of slogging ya nuts off for his firm and not getting paid for it!!!!!.....
It doent suprise me one bit that he has had that phone disconnected as he is as spineless as the rest of the management there and he can come up with all the excuses he wants but they aint gonna change a thing!!!!
Just wondering if anyone else saw the article in the Sunday Sun about total trades promises to a vulnerable lady in the north east who Total trade promised to do work for and guess what????.....they didn't!!!!!......and yes they didn't have the decency to give the poor woman a ring to let her know what was going on....typical of a firm with such high moral standards...
(laughing my head off as i type the word standards!!!!!!).
I hope he does know about this forum and i also hope he cringe's know how much money him and his co-owner's owe the x employees,but i doubt he will because his missus will be keeping the Horlicks nice and warm for him..

 

[fjhugh1]

Having worked for total trade myself, we will see is I get what I am owed in my next wage packet x will keep you all updated

 

[Scott F]

If the toe rag does read this forum he will be well aware that word is getting

out GOOD ON ALL YOU BOYS FOR TAKING ACTION .Stick together

 

[Scott F]

I know to keep well away now even if I am skint

 

[fjhugh1]

Well I was in the office so I am due to get my money on Monday but we will see!!:crazy:

 

[ian1971]

Just had a call from someone in management (Not gonna say who as now we know that they are seeing whats going on).All i will say is that they said they knew nothing about any payroll issues!!!!!!!!!!!!!......WTF!!....do these muppets actually expect me to believe them or cant they read the messages on screen.I dare say its another stalling tactic but i aint gonna let go off them,its plain and simple i earned it, i want it.....guess what tho the people who where looking after the payroll have been moved to another department and the muppet who's been left in charge (and this is b4 it goes to Mr Bryant for final clearance) put it this way I wouldn't trust him to count his own fingers!!!!!!....
Another thing ya need to do as well is IF you do get a payslip...HAHAHA ya need to check that the payroll circus havn't deducted money from a job that ya have not done!!!....so i have just been informed God this firm just get better and better.........

 

[lee72]

total trade...... i`ve been following this thread, if your reading this...( and we now know you are !).. PAY THE LADS WHAT IS RIGHTFULLY THEIRS !! its not hard... pay for the work done and then you can stand tall , look in the mirror and think " i have done the right thing".
man up !!!

 

[ian1971]

Hugh i hope you have better luck than us m8....and theres a few people from the office i would like to have a 'little' chat with but on evidence they wont and dont care about you as much as us m8....

Scot F if total trade were the last firm on this earth i would stay well clear of them as they are the modern version of robin hood and theres not one person in management that i would trust to do anything for you....You have been warned.

 

[ian1971]

found a review of total trade oohhhhhh how true is this from there customer care team haha...
Reviewed by Mr A Thomas on May 26, 2011
Work carried out: Combi-Boiler Specialists
Date of job: 12.05.2011
Total Trades services Continued ineptitude
repeatedley appalling customer service, communication between staff non existant and repeated failure to honour promises to keep us informed of progress. Their callous disregard for the wellbeing of elderly clients was astonishing. I will up-date this report if they eventually undertake the work that is required.
Read more


Customer Service

Standard of Work

Value for money



Reviewed by Brenda & Steven Price on Feb 25, 2011
Work carried out: Plumbers
Date of job: 24.02.2011

Where is everyone?
My son is still waiting for the engineers to turn up and even start the work so I can make no comment on the standard of work except that it's non-existent. This is the 3rd day I've waited for the engineersn to arrive, despite repeated promises of callback, nothing materialises, neither engineer nor phone call!
Read more


Customer Service

Standard of Work

Value for money




Reviewed by john lindley on Nov 2, 2010
Work carried out: Boiler Installation and Repair
Date of job: 01.09.2010

how to be rubbish
1 fit the wrong size boiler drill holes in the ceiling and leave them find a brick in the garden and make it look like its supporting the boiler when its 10mm clear spill rad fluid on carpets leave the job house empty with the rad valve open etc etc etc etc ps dont ring customers back send out a evaluation form saying we aim for 10 out of 10 for everything and that it was all an enjoyable experience

 

[Electricalserv]

Seriously lads. What I don't understand is how none of you relised it was a micky mouse company from the start.


I went for an interview with them over 12 months ago and everybody who was in that waiting areas got a job. Some only had the 17th Edition!

Me and another bloke sat there and said there is something not right here. They are takeing on everybody!!

That in itself had alarm bells ringing and I didn't attend their induction day because it was plainly obvious you were going to be sent all over the country in your car/van for pittence of petrol and £50 per boiler. Oh one boiler could have been in sheffield and another in newcastle!

Can't believe some fell for the trap.

 

[IQ Electrical]

Electricalserv, I'm sure your sympathy will be great comfort to all of the guys that have lost money here....

 

[Electricalserv]

I'm just trying to give people who haven't came across them the heads up on what their criteria was and pay etc.


I do have real sympothy for these guys. I never ever thought it would be as bad as it is. But alarm bells rang for me straight away when everybody got an induction day.


I hope they all get their money and learn from it and others reading don't fall into the same trap!

 

[Electricalserv]

Just been reading some reviews from customers on their adverts on hotfrog and problems solved.


Customers stateing workmanship is diabolical. People left with unnessesary holes in their ceilings. Destroyed carpets by plumbers etc etc.


This is exactly what I was saying they where employing any kind of monkey, with minimul quals.


Shocking company all together

 

[ian1971]

i'm gonna have a look on that sit myself just to see what other other end of the market actually do when they are at work!!!!!..

Pride in what i do and how i conduct myself on site is of the upmost importance to me no matter who i work for just a shame other people dont conduct themselves in the same manner...
(present company excluded of course as you all care about what you do and when you do it)
But why should WE be ripped off by a firm who dont care about anything but themselves and when they ask the people who work for them to carry out the audits that they cant be arsed to do for themselves.....all i will say SHAME ON YOU TOTAL TRADE SERVICES

 

[Silly Sausage]

If, well we all know you are, the owners of TTS W are reading this, I'll stick my boot as well.

From reading all this, you should be totally and utterly ashamed of yourselves.

These guys are are just honest workers who want to do a decent days work, take pride in what they do, then just get paid their just dues at the end.

People like you, who are just working the system, ripping off guys like these because you think you'll get away with make sick to the bone. You're probably laughing your heads off at all this, sat in your posh neuvou rich pad with your fancy rich neighbours (I'm thinking Knutsford here, spanner makes it big and moves somewhere posh), they'll all be thinking you're a ****er anyway.
(Keep it civil) I wouldn't give the likes of you the time of day.

Yours
Andy
Hoping you get what's coming to you (SCUM)






rant over

 

[grimysparks80]

I have worked for tt for a little while now. No details as they are checking this thread. I was pretty happy with it all and have always been paid correctly until the latest payday.
This time im missing about half of the money i booked but have only just started going through the companies payroll department to deal with it so it could be an honest mistake. I remain hopeful that it will be sorted out and i can continue to work for them.
One thing i will say is that i have spent the last couple of weeks going to qas from lads who have left and have seen some shocking work. the worst examples being heating systems fed from two separate circuits resulting in 2 breakers needing to be turned off to isolate the boiler.
Im sure that not everyone complaining was involved in this kind of work but those who were cant really complain about pay if thats what they were doing.
every decent sparky who has been mistreated by this company has my utmost sympathy but as someone else mentioned, they took on a lot of cowboys in the last few months.

 

[dumbNplumber]

if the last post wasn't made by total trade services i'll eat my hat!! no one is taking any notice of the last post so Job NOT DONE!

 

[Electricalserv]

if the last post wasn't made by total trade services i'll eat my hat!! no one is taking any notice of the last post so Job NOT DONE!

Exactly what I was thinking!

 

[Electricalserv]

I have worked for tt for a little while now. No details as they are checking this thread. I was pretty happy with it all and have always been paid correctly until the latest payday.
This time im missing about half of the money i booked but have only just started going through the companies payroll department to deal with it so it could be an honest mistake. I remain hopeful that it will be sorted out and i can continue to work for them.
One thing i will say is that i have spent the last couple of weeks going to qas from lads who have left and have seen some shocking work. the worst examples being heating systems fed from two separate circuits resulting in 2 breakers needing to be turned off to isolate the boiler.
Im sure that not everyone complaining was involved in this kind of work but those who were cant really complain about pay if thats what they were doing.
every decent sparky who has been mistreated by this company has my utmost sympathy but as someone else mentioned, they took on a lot of cowboys in the last few months.

Which makes me wonder - when watchdog do get involved....who are they going to be chaseing Total trade for not paying their staff or the cowboys working for them.


If I was working for them I'd be looking out for the man in the loft at this very moment. Watchdog are already on them so I here!

 

[madmac]

Total Cowboy Services more like!!!